This was such good teaching I decidedd to post my notes from listeing to it. May we all gain understanding.
Comparisons of
Congregation Church to Apostolic Center
By Peter Wagner Sept 2012
The Apostolic reformation is now growing faster than the world population. This movement actually started in Africa around 1900 as churches moved from denominational oversight to independent African Churches. Current Apostolic Kingdom Centers are moving to the forefront to become places of regional impact. Denominational structures are territorial. Apostolic Centers are regional. Apostolic Centers are hubs for other like faith churches and ministries. All things in the following charts are not black and white but are Peter Wagner’s observations of ideals and patterns that have emerged.
|
Congregation (typical church) |
Apostolic Center (Ecclesia) |
Name |
Reflects inward dynamic |
Reflects outward dynamic |
Government |
Pastor – cares for needs |
Apostle – mobilizes people |
|
Elders supervise the pastor Final authority a group |
Elders support the Apostle Final authority – Apostle |
|
Little authority designated to people |
Large amounts of authority designated to people. |
Staff |
Pastors and teachers |
Apostle Prophet Pastors teachers evangelist |
|
Pastor Employee |
Apostle lifetime leader |
|
Leadership style is conformity |
Leadership style is creativity |
|
Rules/ followers |
Expression/ risk takers |
|
Tries to not make mistakes |
Plans for mistakes |
|
Mono Task |
Multitask |
|
One speaker |
Many speakers
|
Focus |
On the congregation |
On the kingdom |
|
Self and the structure |
People connected with the kingdom |
|
Self centered = small vision |
Kingdom centered = large vision |
|
One mountain forming culture – religious |
All 7 mountains forming culture
|
|
Pastor supports the church |
Center supports the Apostle |
Operation |
All social expectations must be meet, worship, prayer, care, etc. This comes natural. |
All social expectations must be meet, worship, prayer, care, etc. This must be worked at. |
|
Fellowship groups |
Ecclesia, legislative body |
Profile |
More passive and peaceful, weaker |
More aggressive and stronger |
Prayer |
Petition, self needs |
Decreeing and Kingdom needs |
|
Avoid demonic confrontation |
Creates demonic confrontation |
Worship |
Intimacy, bedroom type, loveaholics |
Throne room, productive, workaholics |
|
Planned out, love songs |
Free flowing Throne room songs |
|
Feminine |
Masculine |
Revelation |
Interpret the written word |
Written word and prophecy |
Money |
Maintenance decided by committee |
Advancement decided by apostle |
Training |
Saints trained to fit into program |
Saints trained to find destiny |
|
Jobs assigned by gift |
Gift creates opportunity |
Joining |
By people you meet |
By common vision |
|
|
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Terrific notes. Clarifies alot. Pressing to live in that higher calling.
Excellent. Helps bring clarity to how Apostolic Centers operations. Apostle Jeff Herbert
Thank you so much for helping so many bring alignment and order.